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Q&A, 6 Jun 2024: Log Over Normal, Mavic 3 Classic's Shared Camera, Litchi Waypoints Need an RC-N1, a Crashing RC Screen, Firmware Negligence, the Air 3 Upgrade Case, Quieter Props, Parks Control Take-off Not Overflight, and Fixed Apertures

John Meyer Instructor - host · Trigby (Trig) Steen Student - retired forest-ecology instructor; Mini 3 Pro, Air 2S, Mavic 3 Classic with the screen RC · Bob Student - Mini 3 Pro and Air 2S; asks about waypoints, firmware, the Air 3

The short version

  1. Shoot log for flexibility, though Air 3 / Mini 4 Pro Normal is fine for quick work. Every Mavic 3 shares the same main camera - Classic, Pro, standard - so its log is more flexible than the Mini 3's or even the Air 3's; he keeps a Mini 3 for high-risk flying.
  2. Waypoints on Mini 3 Pro / Air 2S: Litchi supports them, but the screen RC can't run third-party apps - buy a cheap RC-N1 and a phone. The Air 3 has native waypoints and needs an RC2 or RC-N2 (OcuSync 4), not the RC-N1. Trig's screen RC rebooted to Fly Now mid-flight - John suspects firmware; releasing the sticks just hovers a GPS drone; an iPad mini on an RC-N1 'works spectacularly well.'
  3. Why the Air 3: the 3x camera above all, 360 avoidance with a picture-in-picture sensor view, a 'world of difference' in battery over the Air 2S; the cost is a 12 MP/4K sensor vs the Air 2S's 20 MP/5.4K. Noise: louder than a Mini 3, lower-pitched than an Air 2S; Master Airscrew props untested. Parks generally control take-off and landing, not overflight - launch from the road right-of-way and stay inconspicuous; New River Gorge as a National Park is closed. Air/Mini fixed apertures matter less than small sensors and infinity focus.

At a glance, three clicks deep

Skim here first: the closed row is the glance, open is the study card with the key points and timestamps, and the ↓ link drops to that concept's full write-up below.

01Log vs Normal, and why the Mavic 3 Classic's footage is the flexible oneLog for flexibility;

Log for flexibility; Mavic 3 line = one camera; Mini 3 for risky flights.

Log vs Normal (L69d24910 0:02-0:03)

Shared Mavic 3 camera; Mini 3 role (L69d24910 0:04-0:05, 0:11)

↓ Full write-up of this concept

02Litchi on older drones, controller compatibility, a crashing RC, and firmware habitsLitchi + RC-N1 for old drones;

Litchi + RC-N1 for old drones; Air 3 = RC2/RC-N2; screen RC quirks; update for features.

Litchi and the RC-N1 workaround (L69d24910 0:07-0:10)

RC crashes and the iPad mini fix (L69d24910 0:10-0:18)

Firmware habits and gain/expo (L69d24910 0:20-0:22)

Air 3 waypoints and controllers (L69d24910 0:28-0:29)

↓ Full write-up of this concept

03The Air 3 upgrade case, noise vs the Air 2S, and quieter propsAir 3 for tele, avoidance, battery;

Air 3 for tele, avoidance, battery; loses resolution to the Air 2S.

Upgrade reasons and the sensor trade (L69d24910 0:22-0:28)

Noise comparison (L69d24910 0:25-0:27)

Master Airscrew props (L69d24910 0:34-0:36)

↓ Full write-up of this concept

04Parks control take-off, not overflight - and why fixed apertures barely matterOverflight vs take-off jurisdiction;

Overflight vs take-off jurisdiction; discretion; fixed aperture is not the limit.

Park jurisdiction and discretion (L69d24910 0:37-0:39, 0:44)

Fixed aperture, diffraction, focus (L69d24910 0:29-0:33)

↓ Full write-up of this concept

The concepts in full

01

Log vs Normal, and why the Mavic 3 Classic's footage is the flexible one

Every Mavic 3 variant shares the same main camera; only the teles differ.

Log lets you 'pull a lot more different color balances or different looks' in post; the Air 3 and Mini 4 Pro Normal profiles are now serviceable for quick clips. Mavic 3 Classic, Pro and standard share the main camera, so their log is more flexible than the Mini 3's and the Air 3 / Mini 4 Pro's; the Mavic is faster and better in wind; he still flies the Mini 3 where a loss would hurt less.

Why it matters

A tidy summary of the tiering the GEAR record spells out.

02

Litchi on older drones, controller compatibility, a crashing RC, and firmware habits

The screen RC can't install Litchi - a cheap RC-N1 and a phone can.

Litchi's list (checked live) covers Air 2S, Mini 3, Mini 3 Pro; the built-in-screen RC blocks third-party apps, so an eBay RC-N1 with Android runs it - less polished than DJI's app, more customisable; use real mapping software for mapping. The Air 3 has native waypoints, on RC2 or the cheaper RC-N2 (OcuSync 4), not the RC-N1. Trig's Mavic 3 Classic RC rebooted to Fly Now mid-flight, the three-dot menu by the right stick opens accidentally, and dry skin defeated the touchscreen - John has had neither RC nor RC2 crash and suspects firmware; a GPS drone hovers when you let go; an iPad mini on an RC-N1 worked 'spectacularly well'; a 'Triple Tech' 1200-1300-nit monitor exists at ~$600 for the 6-inch. Firmware: John is 'negligent' unless a feature draws him; recent updates added goggle support, fixes, and (a year earlier) gain/expo tuning - taught in the six-steps and Air 3 settings lessons.

Why it matters

Controller compatibility is the hidden cost of every DJI upgrade.

03

The Air 3 upgrade case, noise vs the Air 2S, and quieter props

'As a DJI salesman' - the 3x camera first, then the battery.

The 3x tele (his favourite drone of 2023/24), 360 obstacle avoidance with the new picture-in-picture sensor view, and battery life 'a world of difference' over the Air 2S; the trade is a 12 MP / 4K main sensor against the Air 2S's 20 MP / 5.4K. Noise: louder than a Mini 3, similar volume to an Air 2S but lower-pitched and less irritating (a comparison video on his channel). Master Airscrew props claim -6-7 dB and +5 % flight time - untested, 'would make a good YouTube video'; he likes hearing the props to find the drone.

Why it matters

The honest spec trade the sales page doesn't make.

04

Parks control take-off, not overflight - and why fixed apertures barely matter

Launch from the public road right-of-way outside the park boundary, and don't draw a crowd.

State, county and national parks generally regulate take-off and landing inside their boundaries, not overflight; launch and land away from people even where legal; New River Gorge's national-park status closed it to drones. Aperture: Air/Mini lines are fixed - ISO, shutter and ND only; stopping a small sensor down invites diffraction, sensor size limits resolution more than aperture does, and most shots sit at infinity focus - except the 3x teles, which can misfocus.

Why it matters

Two questions every new pilot asks; both answered with the physics and the law rather than a rule of thumb.

Tools referenced

ToolCoverageMomentContext
LitchiexplainedWaypoints on older drones
DJI Air 3explainedUpgrade case
DJI Mini 3 PromentionedStudents' drones

Action items

    Resources mentioned

    Resources
    • docLitchi

    Extraction notes

    This page was built from an auto-generated transcript, which garbles product and people's names. Those were corrected silently in everything above and logged here for transparency. The warnings flag claims that were true on the recording day but change fast.

    Transcript corrections applied

    The transcript saysThe trainer actually means
    JIRC-N1DJI RC-N1
    Trigvy SteenTrigby Steen (as he spells it)
    Little Kanoa RiverLittle Kanawha River

    True on recording day — verify before relying